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SixT9er

Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 10, 2019, 01:52 AM
Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 10, 2019, 01:46 AM
One of the first things you need to ask once you're serious about seeing a Lady is their rules.
Some kiss some don't
Some allow other things while some don't
Many will not discuss these things until you are in person with them in the negotiation room because until they meet you they wont know if they even want to spend time with you.
They are independent & decide who they want to party with, what they are willing to do & ultimately the price which you can accept or decline. Hence the YMMV
Remember you aren't real until you're there

Thank you for the advise. The "not being real until you're there" is a prospective that never crossed my mind. It's a great point. I'm starting to think this endeavor isn't for me, unfortunately.

Thanks for the advice
It's not for everyone but until you go in person you'll never know...
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NHSMG

Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 10, 2019, 02:04 AM
Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 10, 2019, 01:52 AM
Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 10, 2019, 01:46 AM
One of the first things you need to ask once you're serious about seeing a Lady is their rules.
Some kiss some don't
Some allow other things while some don't
Many will not discuss these things until you are in person with them in the negotiation room because until they meet you they wont know if they even want to spend time with you.
They are independent & decide who they want to party with, what they are willing to do & ultimately the price which you can accept or decline. Hence the YMMV
Remember you aren't real until you're there

Thank you for the advise. The "not being real until you're there" is a prospective that never crossed my mind. It's a great point. I'm starting to think this endeavor isn't for me, unfortunately.

Thanks for the advice
It's not for everyone but until you go in person you'll never know...

Understood, thank you.

highlander

Quote from: chuckar chaser on Nov 09, 2019, 11:56 PM
And just like that Allen Jackson song I swellin but she wasn't wellin so I dropped her off early but didnt go home.

I was pretty sure that these weren't the words so had to look them up

Well we fogged up the windows in my old Chevy
I was willing but she wasn't ready
So I settled for a burger and a grape snow cone
Dropped her off early but I didn't go home

Highlander
ATF - "There can be only one"

NHSMG

#18
Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 10, 2019, 02:04 AM
Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 10, 2019, 01:52 AM
Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 10, 2019, 01:46 AM
One of the first things you need to ask once you're serious about seeing a Lady is their rules.
Some kiss some don't
Some allow other things while some don't
Many will not discuss these things until you are in person with them in the negotiation room because until they meet you they wont know if they even want to spend time with you.
They are independent & decide who they want to party with, what they are willing to do & ultimately the price which you can accept or decline. Hence the YMMV
Remember you aren't real until you're there

Thank you for the advise. The "not being real until you're there" is a prospective that never crossed my mind. It's a great point. I'm starting to think this endeavor isn't for me, unfortunately.

Thanks for the advice
It's not for everyone but until you go in person you'll never know...

Sixt9er
As a point of clarification, my desire as part of this endeavor is / was to find a nice lady for dinner (out) and maybe an overnight at the Peppermill Casino (something fun). My intent is to have a nice experience, not just arrive at the Wild Horse Parlor for a quickie sex experience. I completely understand everything you're saying (thank you again), but would like to have a nice experience with a pretty lady. To facilitate an experience of this category, some level of understanding (rapport) prior to visiting would be favorable (almost required). This was my intent with Carrera as we talked and texted consistently for several months. I also understand some of the ladies prefer random guys (quickies), versus respectful date like interactions. I hope to find a lady accepting of a quality visit with a respectful gentleman. This is obviously outside Carrera's comfort zone, and that's fine.

I really appreciate your input, and wanted to clarify the intent of my proposed visit. At some point, I would like to sit in the Wild Horse Parlor to see if anyone (ladies) approach, but that's more stressful based on my inexperience with women. My life path (many years in college) has resulted in very little experience with women. I would love to learn and show a pretty lady a nice time / date. That would be special to me.

Thanks again for your insight and god bless
Doctor N

SixT9er

Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 10, 2019, 03:09 AM

Sixt9er
As a point of clarification, my desire as part of this endeavor is / was to find a nice lady for dinner (out) and maybe an overnight at the Peppermill Casino (something fun). My intent is to have a nice experience, not just arrive at the Wild Horse Parlor for a quickie sex experience. I completely understand everything you're saying (thank you again), but would like to have a nice experience with a pretty lady. To facilitate an experience of this category, some level of understanding (rapport) prior to visiting would be favorable (almost required). This was my intent with Carrera as we talked and texted consistently for several months. I also understand some of the ladies prefer random guys (quickies), versus respectful date like interactions. I hope to find a lady accepting of a quality visit with a respectful gentleman. This is obviously outside Carrera's comfort zone, and that's fine.

I really appreciate your input, and wanted to clarify the intent of my proposed visit. At some point, I would like to sit in the Wild Horse Parlor to see if anyone (ladies) approach, but that's more stressful based on my inexperience with women. Many years in college resulted in a major gap in woman understanding / experience.

Thanks again for your insight and god bless
Doctor N
There are many Ladies at the Mustang who I'm sure would be very interested in the date you are looking for. I go back to the issue of them needing to meet you especially before a date like you're talking about. They will need to feel comfortable with you.
My suggestion is that you go. Meet a Lady you have good chemistry with. You then can go into booking a party. I'd suggest an on-site party first in a suite if you want to take things slow. You can have a great dinner there, spend time in the hot tub etc then go on to the intimacy stage. After that then an extended outdate.
There may be Ladies who will book an extended outdate etc without first meeting but I couldn't tell you who & if I were a Lady I'd want to meet 1st and feel comfortable with my date before committing to a longer outdate.

I have found the a Mustang Ladies to be very accommodating & great to hang out with. Again until you go you won't understand. It's a great chill atmosphere with no pressure & the Ladies are happy to recommend someone else if they aren't what you're looking for.
Go out, meet the Ladies and have a good time. Don't overthink it

Good luck
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NHSMG

Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 10, 2019, 05:03 AM
Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 10, 2019, 03:09 AM

Sixt9er
As a point of clarification, my desire as part of this endeavor is / was to find a nice lady for dinner (out) and maybe an overnight at the Peppermill Casino (something fun). My intent is to have a nice experience, not just arrive at the Wild Horse Parlor for a quickie sex experience. I completely understand everything you're saying (thank you again), but would like to have a nice experience with a pretty lady. To facilitate an experience of this category, some level of understanding (rapport) prior to visiting would be favorable (almost required). This was my intent with Carrera as we talked and texted consistently for several months. I also understand some of the ladies prefer random guys (quickies), versus respectful date like interactions. I hope to find a lady accepting of a quality visit with a respectful gentleman. This is obviously outside Carrera's comfort zone, and that's fine.

I really appreciate your input, and wanted to clarify the intent of my proposed visit. At some point, I would like to sit in the Wild Horse Parlor to see if anyone (ladies) approach, but that's more stressful based on my inexperience with women. Many years in college resulted in a major gap in woman understanding / experience.

Thanks again for your insight and god bless
Doctor N
There are many Ladies at the Mustang who I'm sure would be very interested in the date you are looking for. I go back to the issue of them needing to meet you especially before a date like you're talking about. They will need to feel comfortable with you.
My suggestion is that you go. Meet a Lady you have good chemistry with. You then can go into booking a party. I'd suggest an on-site party first in a suite if you want to take things slow. You can have a great dinner there, spend time in the hot tub etc then go on to the intimacy stage. After that then an extended outdate.
There may be Ladies who will book an extended outdate etc without first meeting but I couldn't tell you who & if I were a Lady I'd want to meet 1st and feel comfortable with my date before committing to a longer outdate.

I have found the a Mustang Ladies to be very accommodating & great to hang out with. Again until you go you won't understand. It's a great chill atmosphere with no pressure & the Ladies are happy to recommend someone else if they aren't what you're looking for.
Go out, meet the Ladies and have a good time. Don't overthink it

Good luck

Thanks for the advice

clevelandbrowns01

#21
An overnight off-site with a girl that you've never met is probably asking a bit much.  I don't know how many of the girls do overnights off-premises at all.  There definitely are some but that would certainly be more of a special request - above and beyond a normal GFE request.   

My take about communication.  Let the lady tell you how she'd like to communicate and follow her wishes.   They get a lot more communication then we realize and most is nonsense.  Talking via phone - I'm not sure I'd recommend at all even if she says she's ok with it.  While at the MR, the ladies are working or reenergizing during their down time for their next shift.  I can't imagine many want phone calls from anyone. 

I  usually just email my favorite MR girl occasionally.  She knows I think about her lots of other times.   We can provide updates to each other that way and don't have to provide immediate responses. 

I hope this helps.  Understand you want connection first before making the long journey.  I live far away too.   I'd say give the MR and Carrerra a chance in person.    Maybe Carrerra was just having a bad day. 

NHSMG

Quote from: clevelandbrowns01 on Nov 11, 2019, 03:07 AM
An overnight off-site with a girl that you've never met is probably asking a bit much.  I don't know how many of the girls do overnights off-premises at all.  There definitely are some but that would certainly be more of a special request - above and beyond a normal GFE request.   

My take about communication.  Let the lady tell you how she'd like to communicate and follow her wishes.   They get a lot more communication then we realize and most is nonsense.  Talking via phone - I'm not sure I'd recommend at all even if she says she's ok with it.  While at the MR, the ladies are working or reenergizing during their down time for their next shift.  I can't imagine many want phone calls from anyone. 

Texting is a little different cause the lady can respond when she has time. Still, she might just not want a ton of texts all the time.  I  usually just email my favorite MR girl occasionally.  She knows I think about her lots of other times.   We can provide updates to each other that way and don't have to provide immediate responses.  I do text a little with her as well but want to be respectful.  Plus, then when she texts me out of the blue - it's super exciting for me! 

I hope this helps.  Understand you want connection first before making the long journey.  I live far away too.   I'd say give the MR and Carrerra a chance in person.    Maybe Carrerra was just having a bad day.

Hello Clevelandbrowns01,
Thank you for the response, your insight is appreciated. After reflecting on this situation today, it appears my desire to find a nice lady for a respectful date was misplaced. After all the interactions with Carrera (email / text / phone), it felt like we had an understanding / rapport, unfortunately my judgment was clouded. As noted by SixT9er, you're not real until you arrive, that's an aspect that never crossed my mind previous (unfortunately). I really appreciate SixT9er reality check.

In terms of communication, the primary method for months was text and email. To your point, this allows the lady (Carrera) the opportunity to respond at her convenience (i.e. no pressure). Any request for a phone discussion was always scheduled, and again at the lady's (Carrera's) convenience. I was cognizant of Carrera's long days (during her ranch visits), and appropriately avoided any contact beyond text. I believe my interactions were managed appropriately. As a respectful gentleman, I always conducted myself in accordance with Carrera's wishes.

At this point, the opportunity for a nice date with Carrera has passed. The events (via phone) Thursday burned the return trip bridge down to ashes. Having a big heart, I purchased a diamond necklace for Carrera, just to make her smile. I was sure we had developed an understanding leading up to a date. Exceedingly disturbing was the attempt to label me as another dirty guy, and she needs to be guarded (cleaned up version). I was at a loss for words and ended the call.

I agree with your original statement, I'm asking a bit much for a quality outdate with a lady from Mustang Ranch. I plan to take some time off to collect my thoughts prior to moving forward again. At this point I'm comfortable getting my deposit back.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to provide insight. Take care and god bless you and everyone on this forum with happiness and health. Please enjoy the approaching holidays.

Doctor N (Boston)

MrTShirt

Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 11, 2019, 04:42 AM

....At this point, the opportunity for a nice date with Carrera has passed. The events (via phone) Thursday burned the return trip bridge down to ashes. Having a big heart, I purchased a diamond necklace for Carrera, just to make her smile. I was sure we had developed an understanding leading up to a date. Exceedingly disturbing was the attempt to label me as another dirty guy, and she needs to be guarded (cleaned up version). I was at a loss for words and ended the call....


When you get to the Mustang, just meet with Carrera and share a drink.  Establish some rapport.

Look at it from a lady's stand point.
For every nice guy that comes along, there could be another guy that isn't nice, and is pushy, and figures his money or looks or charm is going to sway the lady around his little finger.

When you are at the Mustang, ask other ladies about guys who came on strong.  I am sure you will hear many stories.

Just visit several houses and get a sense of what a brothel is all about.  Do some shopping.

Cobia

#24
Quote from: chuckar chaser on Nov 11, 2019, 01:04 PM
Quote from: MrTShirt on Nov 11, 2019, 06:36 AM
Quote from: NHSMG link=topic=4962.msg33034#msg33034

Just visit several houses and get a sense of what a brothel is all about.  Do some shopping.
/quote]


Other houses? There is more than one house in nevada now?








That is what I was thinking too and a little more but I won't say it.
I ain't askin no body for nothing if I can't get it on my own
So if you don't like the way I am livin then leave this long haired country boy alone !!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chewed your ass out all day long.

NHSMG

#25
Quote from: MrTShirt on Nov 11, 2019, 06:36 AM
Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 11, 2019, 04:42 AM

....At this point, the opportunity for a nice date with Carrera has passed. The events (via phone) Thursday burned the return trip bridge down to ashes. Having a big heart, I purchased a diamond necklace for Carrera, just to make her smile. I was sure we had developed an understanding leading up to a date. Exceedingly disturbing was the attempt to label me as another dirty guy, and she needs to be guarded (cleaned up version). I was at a loss for words and ended the call....


When you get to the Mustang, just meet with Carrera and share a drink.  Establish some rapport.

Look at it from a lady's stand point.
For every nice guy that comes along, there could be another guy that isn't nice, and is pushy, and figures his money or looks or charm is going to sway the lady around his little finger.

When you are at the Mustang, ask other ladies about guys who came on strong.  I am sure you will hear many stories.

Just visit several houses and get a sense of what a brothel is all about.  Do some shopping.


MrTshirt
Thank you for the response, it's genuinely appreciated. It's possible my gestures of kindness were misinterpreted, and seen as something less than authentic. The intent of my kindness was to present myself as a nice guy, with a kind heart only looking to show her a nice time on the town. This endeavor is less about sex, and more about the woman's heart / happiness on the date. I fear my good will was viewed as something less than genuine kindness, that's disappointing for me. I'm sure the ladies see guys that aren't nice (undesirable qualities or substance), and that taints their prospective when that one nice guy presents himself. It truly breaks my heart as a lady like Carrera deserves to be treated like a princess, that was my intent.

In terms of a visit to Mustang Ranch, I was thinking (previously) about a visit on a day Carrera was working. This would have provided for quality interaction and maybe a better understanding. The part that burns in my brain is the "another dirty guy insinuation", that's unacceptable based on our interactions up to that point. Providing gifts, candle making books, gift cards, keurig coffee machines (one for home one for work), etc. was fun, as it was intended to provide a moment of happiness, my fear is that my heart felt kindness was received as something less. It's water under the bridge at this point.

If my comments here can prevent another (quality and respectful) gentleman from making similar mistakes, then my time / money invested was worthwhile. Don't be fooled by Carrera, the persona isn't real, and I learned the hard way.  I genuinely wish Carrera the best in all future endeavors, she deserves nothing less.

Thanks for your input and suggestions

God bless
Doctor N

SixT9er

Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 11, 2019, 04:42 AM
At this point, the opportunity for a nice date with Carrera has passed. The events (via phone) Thursday burned the return trip bridge down to ashes. Having a big heart, I purchased a diamond necklace for Carrera, just to make her smile. I was sure we had developed an understanding leading up to a date. Exceedingly disturbing was the attempt to label me as another dirty guy, and she needs to be guarded (cleaned up version). I was at a loss for words and ended the call.
Doctor N (Boston)
Your comment: "burned the return bridge down to ashes"  coupled with your review Of Serena on 11/2 have me confused.
From earlier post in this topic I & others were under the impression you hadn't been to the house yet but with these two things it appears you have.
I've been trying to help someone who hasn't been to the house before but it looks like that isn't the case with you Dr N
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NHSMG

#27
Quote from: SixT9er on Nov 11, 2019, 05:19 PM
Quote from: NHSMG on Nov 11, 2019, 04:42 AM
At this point, the opportunity for a nice date with Carrera has passed. The events (via phone) Thursday burned the return trip bridge down to ashes. Having a big heart, I purchased a diamond necklace for Carrera, just to make her smile. I was sure we had developed an understanding leading up to a date. Exceedingly disturbing was the attempt to label me as another dirty guy, and she needs to be guarded (cleaned up version). I was at a loss for words and ended the call.
Doctor N (Boston)
Your comment: "burned the return bridge down to ashes"  coupled with your review Of Serena on 11/2 have me confused.
From earlier post in this topic I & others were under the impression you hadn't been to the house yet but with these two things it appears you have.
I've been trying to help someone who hasn't been to the house before but it looks like that isn't the case with you Dr N

SixT9er,
Thanks for the response. After being in Reno for a conference in June, I visited the ranch to see what it was all about. This was especially the case after reading the Reno Gazette (May 1, 2019 article) about the ranch history and Lance Gilman (owner). So yes, I visited the ranch. Regarding Serena's review, we had corresponded for several weeks over email, this was up through her visit this early November. Through my email interactions, I found Serena to be a sweet lady, genuine and kind hearted. In response, I appropriately provided Serena a NICE review based on my experience / interactions. Without question, Serena has kind eyes and a heart of gold, that's what I referenced. If you read the review, there is no reference to sex / party / visit, just a respectful review.

The reference to burning the bridge was specific to gong back to reconcile with Carrera after Thursday's interaction. Additionally, I have no experience with the Parlor interactions, and would be interested to experience that aspect. Having a lady approach randomly would be exciting. I think my approach moving forward will include a random visit to see what happens. As you so elegantly noted, "you aren't real until you're there", if this is actually the case, email interactions are of no developmental value to the process.

Thank you for your response

SixT9er

Dr N,
Thanks for the clarification. Reviews generally are only written after a party (which is implied because it's a review) has occurred . I do agree Serena is everything you said. She's a sweetheart & I have spent time visiting with her in the parlor after which I gave her a shout out in this forum

Best of luck to you
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Cobia



I agree with Serena is a sweetheart.  I was lucky to meet her my last trip.
I ain't askin no body for nothing if I can't get it on my own
So if you don't like the way I am livin then leave this long haired country boy alone !!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's hard to kiss the lips at night that chewed your ass out all day long.